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		<title>Comment on You Know You&#8217;re a Hungarian&#8230; by zapo</title>
		<link>http://www.hunreal.com/you-know-youre-a-hungarian-8/comment-page-1/#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator>zapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean Eszperente? 

Kölcsey Ferenc: Himnusz

Nemzetemet ne vesd el,
egek fejedelme;
segedelmezd kezeddel
seregekkel szemben.
Ezerszer lett megvetett,
de szeretve lehet,
elszenvedte e nemzet
jelent meg egyebet.

Nemzetemnek eleje
hegyen ment keresztbe,
szerezted e helyet te,
ebbe vezetted be.
S merre pezsegve mennek
e helyen csermelyek,
nemes tettre gyermekek
felcseperedtenek.

E terepen te kezed
eledelt termesztett,
hegyeken meg meleged
levet csepegtetett.
Eme nemzet verte meg
rettegett keletet,
s neves Fekete sereg
rendesen remekelt.

Eh, de nem kedves tettek
be felgerjesztettek,
kezed repesztett eget
s fellegek fent zengtek.
Hegyes fegyvert reptetett
ferde szem serege,
s erre fent jelzett kelet
engem rekesztett be.

Melyszer zengett el nyelve
kegyetlen keletnek
tetemeknek felette
zengzetet ezeknek.
Melyszer ment tengyermeked
ellened, kedves hely,
s eme gyermek gyermeket
benned temetett el.

Megkergetett ember ment,
s fegyver kelt ellene,
szerte lesett, de nem lelt
kedves helyet erre.
Hegyre megy fel s messze le,
gyenge kedv mellette,
veres testnedvtenger lenn,
s perzselnek felette.

Hegyen hercegek helye –
ez lett szerteverve,
kedv s szeretet repkedtek
s keserv lett helyette.
Berekesztetlen embert
tetem nem teremhet,
teher mellett szenvedett
szemek elerednek.

Nemzetemnek kegyelmezz,
egek fejedelme,
kezeddel segedelmezd,
mert tengerbe veszne.
Ezerszer lett megvetett,
de szeretve lehet,
elszenvedte e nemzet
jelent meg egyebet.

(Draskóczy Balázs)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean Eszperente? </p>
<p>Kölcsey Ferenc: Himnusz</p>
<p>Nemzetemet ne vesd el,<br />
egek fejedelme;<br />
segedelmezd kezeddel<br />
seregekkel szemben.<br />
Ezerszer lett megvetett,<br />
de szeretve lehet,<br />
elszenvedte e nemzet<br />
jelent meg egyebet.</p>
<p>Nemzetemnek eleje<br />
hegyen ment keresztbe,<br />
szerezted e helyet te,<br />
ebbe vezetted be.<br />
S merre pezsegve mennek<br />
e helyen csermelyek,<br />
nemes tettre gyermekek<br />
felcseperedtenek.</p>
<p>E terepen te kezed<br />
eledelt termesztett,<br />
hegyeken meg meleged<br />
levet csepegtetett.<br />
Eme nemzet verte meg<br />
rettegett keletet,<br />
s neves Fekete sereg<br />
rendesen remekelt.</p>
<p>Eh, de nem kedves tettek<br />
be felgerjesztettek,<br />
kezed repesztett eget<br />
s fellegek fent zengtek.<br />
Hegyes fegyvert reptetett<br />
ferde szem serege,<br />
s erre fent jelzett kelet<br />
engem rekesztett be.</p>
<p>Melyszer zengett el nyelve<br />
kegyetlen keletnek<br />
tetemeknek felette<br />
zengzetet ezeknek.<br />
Melyszer ment tengyermeked<br />
ellened, kedves hely,<br />
s eme gyermek gyermeket<br />
benned temetett el.</p>
<p>Megkergetett ember ment,<br />
s fegyver kelt ellene,<br />
szerte lesett, de nem lelt<br />
kedves helyet erre.<br />
Hegyre megy fel s messze le,<br />
gyenge kedv mellette,<br />
veres testnedvtenger lenn,<br />
s perzselnek felette.</p>
<p>Hegyen hercegek helye –<br />
ez lett szerteverve,<br />
kedv s szeretet repkedtek<br />
s keserv lett helyette.<br />
Berekesztetlen embert<br />
tetem nem teremhet,<br />
teher mellett szenvedett<br />
szemek elerednek.</p>
<p>Nemzetemnek kegyelmezz,<br />
egek fejedelme,<br />
kezeddel segedelmezd,<br />
mert tengerbe veszne.<br />
Ezerszer lett megvetett,<br />
de szeretve lehet,<br />
elszenvedte e nemzet<br />
jelent meg egyebet.</p>
<p>(Draskóczy Balázs)</p>
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		<title>Comment on What About the Police? by tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

i just saw this article and just would like to add one correction: random check by police is very commonplace all over Europe, not only in Hungary. Even in the countries (like UK) where in theory they should not happen, it is not uncommon.

E.g. most of Scandinavia practice regular random check on cars and obviously drivers as well as enforce very strict laws on drinking and driving etc. You can count on being checked especially Saturday mornings etc when people are driving after drinking previous night.

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>i just saw this article and just would like to add one correction: random check by police is very commonplace all over Europe, not only in Hungary. Even in the countries (like UK) where in theory they should not happen, it is not uncommon.</p>
<p>E.g. most of Scandinavia practice regular random check on cars and obviously drivers as well as enforce very strict laws on drinking and driving etc. You can count on being checked especially Saturday mornings etc when people are driving after drinking previous night.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Treatise on the Hungarian Cheek Kiss by Ken Dodd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Brit who lives in Germany and who has lived in many other countries before, I have to say that this article is pure bollocks. Sure, Hungarians, as many southern Europeans, kiss by way of greeting, but that is nothing to do with personal space. Germans DON&#039;T include their car in their &quot;space bubble&quot; (what a silly notion...how funny the things are that Americans believe!), nor are they particularly stand-offish. The French WILL mind if you cuddle up to them on the street. The Japanese are unspeakably bad at body language, western style, but nevertheless they neatly fold themselves into subway cars in staggering numbers, just like New Yorkers do. People are people, and some like (or are forced to endure) closeness more than others, and that&#039;s all there is to it. It&#039;s so tiring to read the same old clichés over and over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Brit who lives in Germany and who has lived in many other countries before, I have to say that this article is pure bollocks. Sure, Hungarians, as many southern Europeans, kiss by way of greeting, but that is nothing to do with personal space. Germans DON&#8217;T include their car in their &#8220;space bubble&#8221; (what a silly notion&#8230;how funny the things are that Americans believe!), nor are they particularly stand-offish. The French WILL mind if you cuddle up to them on the street. The Japanese are unspeakably bad at body language, western style, but nevertheless they neatly fold themselves into subway cars in staggering numbers, just like New Yorkers do. People are people, and some like (or are forced to endure) closeness more than others, and that&#8217;s all there is to it. It&#8217;s so tiring to read the same old clichés over and over again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What Does it Mean to be Hungarian? by moss</title>
		<link>http://www.hunreal.com/to-be-hungarian/comment-page-1/#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 14:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have become quite friendly with a young Hungarian lady. She is 23 and I am 50.
I must point out that she made verbal advances to me and, for a while I tired to &#039;laugh it off&#039; and to deter her.
Now I find myself drawing closer to her, emotionally.
I suppose I should mention I live in the United kingdom, Great Britain.
She says when I ask she will come here and be with me.
Based on your knowledge of young Hungarian ladies, I would value your comments and point of view, be they positive or negative.
I dont want  to get hurt and I do not wish for her to be hurt either, she is important to me and my/our feelings seem to be growing stronger. I should point out also that we are both single.  I found your site excellent, thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have become quite friendly with a young Hungarian lady. She is 23 and I am 50.<br />
I must point out that she made verbal advances to me and, for a while I tired to &#8216;laugh it off&#8217; and to deter her.<br />
Now I find myself drawing closer to her, emotionally.<br />
I suppose I should mention I live in the United kingdom, Great Britain.<br />
She says when I ask she will come here and be with me.<br />
Based on your knowledge of young Hungarian ladies, I would value your comments and point of view, be they positive or negative.<br />
I dont want  to get hurt and I do not wish for her to be hurt either, she is important to me and my/our feelings seem to be growing stronger. I should point out also that we are both single.  I found your site excellent, thank you</p>
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		<title>Comment on Third Culture Kids in a Flat World by Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking to write my major research paper on this topic... I have swung from emersion programs and how they change the perspectives of young people, to 3rd culture kids and how they see the word as it is more than others. 

Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking to write my major research paper on this topic&#8230; I have swung from emersion programs and how they change the perspectives of young people, to 3rd culture kids and how they see the word as it is more than others. </p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where was God, When My Child Died? by A Father</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Father</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was really a good answer you have given about the dead child. My daughter recently died of an illness and I was really depressed unable to convince myself about what would have happened to my child after death but your answer gave me peace. Tx a lot for pacifying the people in pain. May god really bless you with peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was really a good answer you have given about the dead child. My daughter recently died of an illness and I was really depressed unable to convince myself about what would have happened to my child after death but your answer gave me peace. Tx a lot for pacifying the people in pain. May god really bless you with peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Appetizer to Hungarian History by János / John</title>
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		<dc:creator>János / John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nagyszerű olvasmány! köszönöm szépen.

/

great article! thank you so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nagyszerű olvasmány! köszönöm szépen.</p>
<p>/</p>
<p>great article! thank you so much.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gymnastics of the Brain: Hungarian Language by gabor</title>
		<link>http://www.hunreal.com/language-gymnastics/comment-page-1/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>gabor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding: &quot;figure out why you wash down the mirror, wash up the floor tiles, wash out the clothes, and wash away the dishes. What is the logic? And of course there is the “meg.” 

Hungarian, IMO, is a &quot;purpose&quot; oriented language being very precise in expressing what someone will due to what end (we even have an &quot;objective&quot; /tárgyi/ verb declination to express that someone is not doing something in general but in particular with a given object).  

So: you wash down the mirror because you take the dirt down from its surface;
you wash up the floor because you take the dirt up from the floor (to the bucket);
you wash away the dishes because you take away the dirt from them (to the sink)
and of course the &quot;meg&quot;: it roughly means to do something to the end or to the point it&#039;s considered finished or until the expected or supposed outcome is achieved.
e.g: &quot;tanulni&quot; - to study / &quot;megtanulni&quot; - to apprehend completely;
&quot;lovagolni&quot; - to ride a horse (or something eg: a wawe or trend)  /
 &quot;meglovagolni&quot; - to ride the horse until it&#039;s &quot;owned&quot; and you have full control of it (or ride the wave until it hits the shore or ride the trend until you have the results you expected: profit, sucess etc.
&quot;szeretni&quot;  - to love / &quot;megszeretni&quot; to be over the process that produced love or liking

Hope that shows the logic
Strange as it seems :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding: &#8220;figure out why you wash down the mirror, wash up the floor tiles, wash out the clothes, and wash away the dishes. What is the logic? And of course there is the “meg.” </p>
<p>Hungarian, IMO, is a &#8220;purpose&#8221; oriented language being very precise in expressing what someone will due to what end (we even have an &#8220;objective&#8221; /tárgyi/ verb declination to express that someone is not doing something in general but in particular with a given object).  </p>
<p>So: you wash down the mirror because you take the dirt down from its surface;<br />
you wash up the floor because you take the dirt up from the floor (to the bucket);<br />
you wash away the dishes because you take away the dirt from them (to the sink)<br />
and of course the &#8220;meg&#8221;: it roughly means to do something to the end or to the point it&#8217;s considered finished or until the expected or supposed outcome is achieved.<br />
e.g: &#8220;tanulni&#8221; &#8211; to study / &#8220;megtanulni&#8221; &#8211; to apprehend completely;<br />
&#8220;lovagolni&#8221; &#8211; to ride a horse (or something eg: a wawe or trend)  /<br />
 &#8220;meglovagolni&#8221; &#8211; to ride the horse until it&#8217;s &#8220;owned&#8221; and you have full control of it (or ride the wave until it hits the shore or ride the trend until you have the results you expected: profit, sucess etc.<br />
&#8220;szeretni&#8221;  &#8211; to love / &#8220;megszeretni&#8221; to be over the process that produced love or liking</p>
<p>Hope that shows the logic<br />
Strange as it seems :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hungarians: saddest people in Europe? by Emmaus Road &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are Hungarians the &#8220;saddest people in Europe&#8221;?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmaus Road &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are Hungarians the &#8220;saddest people in Europe&#8221;?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this gem of an article on one of the Hungarian blogs I follow. There&#8217;s a classic line, &#8220;Hungarians just hide [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this gem of an article on one of the Hungarian blogs I follow. There&#8217;s a classic line, &#8220;Hungarians just hide [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Valentine&#8217;s Day: Hot Tips in Hungary by Richard Stienstra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Stienstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for psoting the article: Valentine&#039;s Day: Hot Tips in Hungary.  I was able to find a get away weekend package for my daughter and son-in-law who live in Diosd from my laptop in Arlington Heights, IL USA.

I enjoy checking out the website.

PS. They went to Festetich Hotel and had a great time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for psoting the article: Valentine&#8217;s Day: Hot Tips in Hungary.  I was able to find a get away weekend package for my daughter and son-in-law who live in Diosd from my laptop in Arlington Heights, IL USA.</p>
<p>I enjoy checking out the website.</p>
<p>PS. They went to Festetich Hotel and had a great time.</p>
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